Alterslash

the unofficial Slashdot digest
 

Contents

  1. Nvidia Is Planning to Launch Its Own Open-Source OpenClaw Competitor
  2. YouTube Expands AI Deepfake Detection To Politicians, Government Officials, and Journalists
  3. China Moves To Curb OpenClaw AI Use At Banks, State Agencies
  4. ASUS Executive Says MacBook Neo is ‘Shock’ to PC Industry
  5. Meta To Charge Advertisers a Fee To Offset Europe’s Digital Taxes
  6. Yann LeCun Raises $1 Billion To Build AI That Understands the Physical World
  7. Valve Faces Second, Class-Action Lawsuit Over Loot Boxes
  8. A 1,300-Pound NASA Spacecraft To Re-Enter Earth’s Atmosphere
  9. After Outages, Amazon To Make Senior Engineers Sign Off On AI-Assisted Changes
  10. Tony Hoare, Turing Award-Winning Computer Scientist Behind QuickSort, Dies At 92
  11. Intel Demos Chip To Compute With Encrypted Data
  12. Amazon Wins Court Order To Block Perplexity’s AI Shopping Bots
  13. Silicon Valley Is Buzzing About This New Idea: AI Compute As Compensation
  14. AT&T Outlines $250 Billion US Investment Plan To Boost Infrastructure In AI Age
  15. Ig Nobels Ceremony Moves To Europe Indefinitely, Citing US Safety Concerns

Alterslash picks up to the best 5 comments from each of the day’s Slashdot stories, and presents them on a single page for easy reading.

Nvidia Is Planning to Launch Its Own Open-Source OpenClaw Competitor

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Nvidia is preparing to launch an open-source AI agent platform called NemoClaw, designed to compete with the likes of OpenClaw. According to Wired, the platform will allow enterprise software companies to dispatch AI agents to perform tasks for their own workforces. “Companies will be able to access the platform regardless of whether their products run on Nvidia’s chips,” the report adds. From the report:
The move comes as Nvidia prepares for its annual developer conference in San Jose next week. Ahead of the conference, Nvidia has reached out to companies including Salesforce, Cisco, Google, Adobe, and CrowdStrike to forge partnerships for the agent platform. It’s unclear whether these conversations have resulted in official partnerships. Since the platform is open source, it’s likely that partners would get free, early access in exchange for contributing to the project, sources say. Nvidia plans to offer security and privacy tools as part of this new open-source agent platform. […]

For Nvidia, NemoClaw appears to be part of an effort to court enterprise software companies by offering additional layers of security for AI agents. It’s also another step in the company’s embrace of open-source AI models, part of a broader strategy to maintain its dominance in AI infrastructure at a time when leading AI labs are building their own custom chips. Nvidia’s software strategy until now has been heavily reliant on its CUDA platform, a famously proprietary system that locks developers into building software for Nvidia’s GPUs and has created a crucial “moat” for the company.

YouTube Expands AI Deepfake Detection To Politicians, Government Officials, and Journalists

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YouTube is expanding its AI deepfake detection tools to a pilot group of politicians, government officials, and journalists, allowing them to identify and request removal of unauthorized AI-generated videos impersonating them. TechCrunch reports:
The technology itself launched last year to roughly 4 million YouTube creators in the YouTube Partner Program, following earlier tests. Similar to YouTube’s existing Content ID system, which detects copyright-protected material in users’ uploaded videos, the likeness detection feature looks for simulated faces made with AI tools. These tools are sometimes used to try to spread misinformation and manipulate people’s perception of reality, as they leverage the deepfaked personas of notable figures — like politicians or other government officials — to say and do things in these AI videos that they didn’t in real life.

With the new pilot program, YouTube aims to balance users’ free expression with the risks associated with AI technology that can generate a convincing likeness of a public figure. […] [Leslie Miller, YouTube’s vice president of Government Affairs and Public Policy] explained that not all of the detected matches would be removed when requested. Instead, YouTube would evaluate each request under its existing privacy policy guidelines to determine whether the content is parody or political critique, which are protected forms of free expression. The company noted it’s advocating for these protections at a federal level, too, with its support for the NO FAKES Act in D.C., which would regulate the use of AI to create unauthorized recreations of an individual’s voice and visual likeness.

To use the new tool, eligible pilot testers must first prove their identity by uploading a selfie and a government ID. They can then create a profile, view the matches that show up, and optionally request their removal. YouTube says it plans to eventually give people the ability to prevent uploads of violating content before they go live or, possibly, allow them to monetize those videos, similar to how its Content ID system works. The company would not confirm which politicians or officials would be among its initial testers, but said the goal is to make the technology broadly available over time.

And who monitors this for abuse?

By Sethra • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Just being AI based doesn’t mean it’s intention is to deceive. In most cases it’s parody or protected free speech.

I have no issue with slapping a big “AI Deepfake” label on identified deepfake content, but when you start talking about giving politicians and government officials the ability to prevent you from even being heard, that’s not ok.

China Moves To Curb OpenClaw AI Use At Banks, State Agencies

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg:
Chinese authorities moved to restrict state-run enterprises and government agencies from running OpenClaw AI apps on office computers, acting swiftly to defuse potential security risks after companies and consumers across China began experimenting with the agentic AI phenomenon. Government agencies and state-owned enterprises, including the largest banks, have received notices in recent days warning them against installing OpenClaw software on office devices for security reasons […]. Several of them were instructed to notify superiors if they had already installed related apps for security checks and possible removal, some of the people said.

Certain employees, including those at state-run banks and some government agencies, were banned from installing OpenClaw on office computers and also personal phones using the company’s network, some of the people said. One person said the ban was also extended to the families of military personnel. Other notices stopped short of calling for an outright ban on OpenClaw software, saying only that prior approval is needed before use, the people said. The warning underscores Beijing’s growing concern about OpenClaw, an agentic AI platform that requires unusually broad access to private data and can communicate externally, potentially exposing computers to external attack. […]

Despite the potential security risks, companies from Tencent to JD.com Inc. have been rolling out OpenClaw apps to try and capitalize on the groundswell of enthusiasm, while several local government agencies have declared millions of yuan in subsidies for companies that develop atop the platform. […] Tech giants like Tencent and Alibaba, along with AI upstarts ranging from Moonshot to MiniMax, have rolled out their own tweaks of the software touting simple, one-click adoption. A slew of government agencies, in cities from Shenzhen to Wuxi, have issued notices offering multimillion-yuan subsidies to startups leveraging OpenClaw to make advances. The frenzy has helped drive up shares of AI model developer MiniMax nearly 640% since its listing just two months ago. It’s now worth about $49 billion, surpassing Baidu — once viewed as the frontrunner in Chinese AI development — in market value. The company launched MaxClaw, an agent built on OpenClaw, in late February.

Geez…I thought they were smarter…?

By cayenne8 • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Ok…while I can understand everyday users not knowing what they’re getting into with OpenClaw....even after these weeks of internet warnings about handing the keys to it without guard rails…

I can’t fathom users at banks and government facilities installing this, much less even having their computers not locked down by default to prevent this?!?!

I’m about to start experimenting with it…have a Mac Mini 24GB on the way....it will be dedicated to OC…and run small model, etc....using docker, etc…trying to isolate it while learning and experimenting.

But wow....banks and govt offices in China throwing this on Willy nilly?

DO NOT LET ROKO’S BASILISK OUT FRONT DOOR!

By Pseudonymous Powers • Score: 4, Funny Thread

Is it the Year of the Monkey on Crack with a Shotgun already?

ASUS Executive Says MacBook Neo is ‘Shock’ to PC Industry

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ASUS says the MacBook Neo is a “shock” to the Windows PC ecosystem. “In the past, Apple’s pricing situation has always been high, so for them to release a very budget-friendly product, this is obviously a shock to the entire industry,” said ASUS co-CEO S.Y. Hsu in a Tuesday earnings call. While he expects PC makers to respond, rising AI-driven memory shortages could push hardware prices higher across the industry. PCMag reports:
Hsu said he believes all the PC players — including Microsoft, Intel, and AMD — take the MacBook Neo threat seriously. “In fact, in the entire PC ecosystem, there have been a lot of discussions about how to compete with this product,” he added, given that rumors about the MacBook Neo have been making the rounds for at least a year. Despite the competitive threat, Hsu argued that the MacBook Neo could have limited appeal. He pointed to the laptop’s 8GB of “unified memory,” or what amounts to its RAM, and how customers can’t upgrade it.

He also described the MacBook Neo as a “content consumption” device, similar to an iPad. “This is different from the use case of a mainstream notebook,” which can handle more compute-intensive tasks, Hsu said. “How big of an impact [the MacBook Neo] will have on the PC industry will still require some time for us to observe,” Hsu said while suggesting it might not gain traction among Windows PC users due to software differences. “Of course, the entire Windows PC ecosystem will push out products to compete against Apple,” he added.

The “mom just buy this” machine

By jacks smirking reven • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

For me in my career of both work and family Mac’s have always been the preferred solution for non-techie family members; they’re just harder to make a mess of things than Windows (which a user can get themselves into trouble with, even on W11) and Linux which is a whole nother can of worms that you’re gonna be that family members tech support for.

Macs are boxed in walled gardens but that is a good thing in some situations. The downside has always been the price but now, now you better believe that this will be a solid suggestion when I get asked what computer to get your older relatives.

It doesn’t hurt that Macs IMO have at least a pretty good minimum level of build quality compared to say Asus who while capable of building nice machine also make some crappy and fragile machines, as well as their customer support always, always, always being spotty and a PITA.

Really companies like Asus need to sort that shit out if they want to keep up, it’s not just the machine itself but Apples entire system including the stores.

consumption device?

By Bert64 • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

He also described the MacBook Neo as a “content consumption” device, similar to an iPad. “This is different from the use case of a mainstream notebook,”

Not really, it’s not a high end machine but it’s perfectly capable for most users. And with the price of memory going up people are still buying windows laptops with 8GB or even 4, which will perform much worse than the macbook.

Neo is pretty significant....

By King_TJ • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

The people saying it’s just “a glorified Chromebook” are missing the point, IMO. Yeah, as Apple products go, it’s underpowered and has limited ports. But it runs MacOS at a price point that was unreachable before without buying someone’s older, used Mac.

Chromebooks suck, by and large, because they’re designed to run Google’s web software suite for use in a classroom. People wanting an all-purpose laptop at a low price point find out they got the low price point but not much else.

A Macbook Neo will come with official Apple support (including things like ability to walk into any retail Apple Store world-wide and make appointments to get some free help or training on using the machine and Apple’s software apps). And recent versions of MacOS seem to be pretty optimized to run apps well inside an 8GB RAM limitation. (Remember that Apple was trying to trim the entry level price point on other machines of theirs like the Macbook Air for years by skimping on RAM. They had to make sure their OS could actually do useful things inside that memory footprint.)

What’s the towing capacity of this Prius?

By Somervillain • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
Complaining about 8GB on a Neo is like complaining that the towing capacity of the 2025 Prius can’t match that of the Ford F150. They’re different products designed for different audiences. A prius can tow stuff…but no one buys one with the intention of hauling trailers. Similarly, no one is buying a mac neo to do hardcore resource-intensive computing. It’s a student laptop or a cheap device for people who weren’t otherwise planning on owning a laptop in their home and rely on an iPhone or iPad now (like about half my family).

Re:Not as much as Chromebook

By saloomy • Score: 4, Insightful Thread
I have a MacBook from 2017 with 8GB of ram I let my nephew use, and it’s amazing what he can do on it. A MacBook with MacOS is absolutely not an iPad. He is learning to use Xcode with ChatGPT to make little games. I will buy him a Neo

Meta To Charge Advertisers a Fee To Offset Europe’s Digital Taxes

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Meta will begin charging advertisers a 2-5% “location fee" to offset digital services taxes imposed by several European countries, including the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Austria, and Turkey. Reuters reports:
The fee, for image or video ads delivered on Meta platforms including WhatsApp click-to-message campaigns and marketing messages together with ads, will apply from July 1 and will also cover other government-imposed levies. “Until now, Meta has covered these additional costs. These changes are part of Meta’s ongoing effort to respond to the evolving regulatory landscape and align with industry standards,” the company said in the blog.

The location fees are determined by where the audience is located and not the advertisers’ business location. Meta listed six countries where the fees will apply, ranging from 2% in the United Kingdom to 3% in France, Italy and Spain and 5% in Austria and Turkey.

For once a regulation is working as intended

By DrStrangluv • Score: 5, Informative Thread

This makes advertising in those areas more expensive, meaning fewer ads for users in those countries. And the ads they do see will be higher value, from companies that know they can make a return, and not low-value/low-return blanket spam. So up until the point where Meta decides it’s no longer worthwhile to provide the service, I call this a win.

Yann LeCun Raises $1 Billion To Build AI That Understands the Physical World

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired:
Advanced Machine Intelligence (AMI), a new Paris-based startup cofounded by Meta’s former chief AI scientist Yann LeCun, announced Monday it has raised more than $1 billion to develop AI world models. LeCun argues that most human reasoning is grounded in the physical world, not language, and that AI world models are necessary to develop true human-level intelligence. “The idea that you’re going to extend the capabilities of LLMs [large language models] to the point that they’re going to have human-level intelligence is complete nonsense,” he said in an interview with WIRED.

The financing, which values the startup at $3.5 billion, was co-led by investors such as Cathay Innovation, Greycroft, Hiro Capital, HV Capital, and Bezos Expeditions. Other notable backers include Mark Cuban, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, and French billionaire and telecommunications executive Xavier Niel. AMI (pronounced like the French word for friend) aims to build “a new breed of AI systems that understand the world, have persistent memory, can reason and plan, and are controllable and safe,” the company says in a press release. The startup says it will be global from day one, with offices in Paris, Montreal, Singapore, and New York, where LeCun will continue working as a New York University professor in addition to leading the startup. AMI will be the first commercial endeavor for LeCun since his departure from Meta in November 2025. […]

LeCun says AMI aims to work with companies in manufacturing, biomedical, robotics, and other industries that have lots of data. For example, he says AMI could build a realistic world model of an aircraft engine and work with the manufacturer to help them optimize for efficiency, minimize emissions, or ensure reliability. LeCun says AMI will release its first AI models quickly, but he’s not expecting most people to take notice. The company will first work with partners such as Toyota and Samsung, and then will learn how to apply its technology more broadly. Eventually, he says, AMI intends to develop a “universal world model,” which would be the basis for a generally intelligent system that could help companies regardless of what industry they work in. “It’s very ambitious,” he says with a smile.

Excellent!

By Mr. Dollar Ton • Score: 4, Funny Thread

They just have to build a simulation the size of the Universe and the gods themselves will pop out of Heaven to congratulate them.

You can lead a bot to solder..

By geekmux • Score: 3 Thread

So, we want to teach AI about the physical world. Huh. Some would argue the body-less entity would merely need a few volumes on physics to understand that. Are investors going to start funding apple orchards near the data centers when we get to the part on gravity or what?

I’m reminded of a variant on a related theme; You can lead a bot to solder, but you can’t make it think.

Neccessary but not sufficient

By gweihir • Score: 3 Thread

Always interesting how these people gloss over that. Essentially a lie by misdirection.
Incidentally, it is not known whether it is necessary either.

That said, there will never be AGI in LLMs. The approach does not support it. The one thing striking in the current AI hype is how many people without a clue are making grand predictions.

Valve Faces Second, Class-Action Lawsuit Over Loot Boxes

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Valve is facing a new consumer class-action lawsuit two weeks after New York sued the video game company for “letting children and adults illegally gamble” with loot boxes. The new lawsuit is similar, alleging that loot boxes in games like Counter-Strike 2, Dota 2, and Team Fortress 2 are "carefully engineered to extract money from consumers, including children, through deceptive, casino-style psychological tactics.”

“We believe Valve deliberately engineered its gambling platform and profited enormously from it,” Steve Berman, founder and managing partner at law firm Hagens Berman, said in a press release. “Consumers played these games for entertainment, unaware that Valve had allegedly already stacked the odds against them. We intend to hold Valve accountable and put money back in the pockets of consumers.” PC Gamer reports:
The system is well known to anyone who’s played a Valve multiplayer game: Earn a locked loot box by playing, pay $2.50 for a key, unlock it, get a digital doohickey that’s sometimes worth hundreds or even thousands of dollars but far more often is worth just a few pennies. Is that gambling? If these cases go to court, we’ll find out.

The full complaint points out that the unlocking process is even designed to look like a slot machine: “Images of possible items scroll across the screen, spinning fast at first, then slowing to a stop on the player’s ‘prize.’ Players buy and open loot boxes for the same reason people play slot machines — the hope of a valuable payout.” Loot boxes, the complaint continues, are not “incidental features” of Valve’s games, but rather “a deliberate, carefully engineered revenue model.” So too is the Steam Community Market, and Steam itself, which the suit claims is “deliberately designed” to enable the sale of digital items on third-party marketplaces through “trade URLs,” despite Valve’s terms of service prohibiting off-platform sales.

And while the debate over whether loot boxes constitute a form of gambling continues to rage, the suit claims Valve’s system does indeed qualify under Washington law, which defines gambling as “staking or risking something of value upon the outcome of a contest of chance or a future contingent event not under the person’s control or influence.” “Valve’s loot boxes satisfy every element of this definition,” the lawsuit alleges. “Users stake money (the price of a key) on the outcome of a contest of chance (the random selection of a virtual item), and the items received are ‘things of value’ under RCW 9.46.0285 because they can be sold for real money through Valve’s own marketplace and through third-party marketplaces that Valve has fostered and facilitated.”

OK

By msauve • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
>defines gambling as “staking or risking something of value upon … a future contingent event not under the person’s control or influence.”

Like buying or selling stock options.

Gonna sue all burger joints

By DraconPern • Score: 4, Funny Thread
By their definition, isn’t it a gamble to see if I might get a flattened hamburger in a box? 

still not gambling

By Bahbus • Score: 3 Thread

Steve Berman, is a certified retarded piss baby who does not understand the basic definition of gambling. In order to be gambling, Valve would need to “buy” the loot box item back off the player and give the player cash.

Loot boxes are not gambling.
Opening TCG booster packs (Pokemon, Magic: The Gathering, etc) is not gambling.
Coin operated random candy/toy dispensers are not gambling.
Games of chance do not equate to gambling. Slot machines, poker, are not inherently gambling if there is no possibility of the one who is taking money paying it back out (or if no money is involved at all). Kids playing poker for candy doesn’t constitute gambling.

The existence of a secondary market, made up entirely of the players, who are willing to pay ridiculous prices for dumb looking knife skins is not Valve’s problem.

Likewise, Washington’s law is both too broad (as it can be applied to McDonald’s happy meal toys and the stock market if it can be applied to Valve) and not applicable in this case. You are not staking or risking anything. You are paying for something that has no value (key) for a random virtual item that also has no value (skins). The fact that a 3rd party is willing to pay for it, does not give the item value.

Now, don’t get me wrong, loot boxes and skins in general is exactly what is wrong with pretty much all F2P games. Too much time and attention goes into continuing to create skins that people will want to buy so the company can make money instead of improving/fixing the game - looking at you Riot Games.

This will be a measure of jury intelligence

By DeplorableCodeMonkey • Score: 3 Thread

By the logic used by both the AG and this firm, every collectible card system is also gambling.

That includes baseball cards that my ‘46 Boomer dad grew up collecting.

Valve should mock the crap out of this buy just buying a collection of MTG, Pokemon, baseball cards, Marvel trading cards and random blind bags from 5 and Below, toss them at the jury and say “is this gambling too?”

really ?

By Tom • Score: 3, Insightful Thread

It’s interesting to see people DEFEND loot boxes. What are you? Retarded?

Loot boxes are pure exploitation and are intentionally designed to your disadvantage and the advantage of the company. The only honest defense of them is to reveal what most of us suspect already: That they aren’t really random, but run by carefully engineered algorithms to maximize the company profits, in which case they might dodge the label “gambling” and exchange it for “scam”.

A 1,300-Pound NASA Spacecraft To Re-Enter Earth’s Atmosphere

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Van Allen Probe A, a 1,300-pound (600 kg) NASA satellite launched in 2012 to study Earth’s radiation belts, is expected to re-enter Earth’s atmosphere this week. While most of it is expected to burn up during descent, “some components may survive,” reports the BBC. “The space agency said there is a one in 4,200 chance of being harmed by a piece of the probe, which it characterized as ‘low’ risk.” From the report:
The spacecraft is projected to re-enter around 19:45 EST (00:45 GMT) on Tuesday the U.S. Space Force predicted, according to Nasa, though there is a 24-hour margin of “uncertainty” in the timing. […] The spacecraft and its twin, Van Allen Probe B, were on a mission to gather unprecedented data on Earth’s two permanent radiation belts. It was not immediately clear where in Earth’s atmosphere the satellite is projected to re-enter. NASA and the U.S. Space Force has said it will monitor the re-entry and update any predictions. […] Van Allen Probe B is not expected to re-enter the Earth’s atmosphere before 2030.

1 in 4200

By quenda • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

“The space agency said there is a one in 4,200 chance of being harmed by a piece of the probe”

Who is more foolish? The author, the proof-reader (is that still a thing?), or the Slashdot editor who copy-pasted this without question?

I think I can improve my odds by staying indoors.
BTW, 600 kg is tiny. Skylab was 90 ton.

Go to the source

By Buchenskjoll • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
The NASA homepage says:

The risk of harm coming to anyone on Earth is low — approximately 1 in 4,200.

So, I guess my risk is about 1/8,000,000,000 times that. https://www.nasa.gov/missions/…

But IF YOU DO GET HIT (Disclamer)

By Provocateur • Score: 3 Thread

That does not — repeat, does not make you a part of any radiation belt.

In contrast

By jpellino • Score: 3 Thread

Yet millions of people believe it’s a good bet to play 1 in 36,000 odds and happy to win a hundred bucks.

After Outages, Amazon To Make Senior Engineers Sign Off On AI-Assisted Changes

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Financial Times:
Amazon’s ecommerce business has summoned a large group of engineers to a meeting on Tuesday for a “deep dive” into a spate of outages, including incidents tied to the use of AI coding tools. The online retail giant said there had been a “trend of incidents” in recent months, characterized by a “high blast radius” and “Gen-AI assisted changes” among other factors, according to a briefing note for the meeting seen by the FT. Under “contributing factors” the note included “novel GenAI usage for which best practices and safeguards are not yet fully established.”

“Folks, as you likely know, the availability of the site and related infrastructure has not been good recently,” Dave Treadwell, a senior vice-president at the group, told employees in an email, also seen by the FT. The note ahead of Tuesday’s meeting did not specify which particular incidents the group planned to discuss. […] Treadwell, a former Microsoft engineering executive, told employees that Amazon would focus its weekly “This Week in Stores Tech” (TWiST) meeting on a “deep dive into some of the issues that got us here as well as some short immediate term initiatives” the group hopes will limit future outages.

He asked staff to attend the meeting, which is normally optional. Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, Treadwell added. Amazon said the review of website availability was “part of normal business” and it aims for continual improvement. “TWiST is our regular weekly operations meeting with a specific group of retail technology leaders and teams where we review operational performance across our store,” the company said.

Cost/benefit

By battingly • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I’ve seen estimates of the cost of the most recent AWS outage of hundreds of millions of dollars. It’s going to be a very long time before the benefits of AI in Amazon’s operations outweigh the costs.

FAFO

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Hilarious. Engineering cheaper than possible does not work. Who would have expected that....

I also wonder how they think they will get future senior people if they do not hire junior ones now.

No, they clealy haven’t embraced AI enough

By high_rolla • Score: 5, Funny Thread

The clear answer is to go further. They should get AI to check their AI written code for bugs. They should also get AI to mentor the junior programmers and another AI to check on all the other AI’s and write a summary for the execs on how it is all going.

normal practise

By fortunatus • Score: 5, Insightful Thread
Pardon me, but isn’t code review before merge to production normal practice? If senior engineers aren’t reviewing, then I would say that the problem is not the use of AI tools…

Vibe City

By Njovich • Score: 5, Informative Thread

I find it really hard to understand how this is going to end well.

The ability of shitty engineers to generate enormous amounts of vibe coded lines vastly outstrips the ability of seniors to review it.

You will just end up tying up all of your senior’s time if you want to review properly.

Tony Hoare, Turing Award-Winning Computer Scientist Behind QuickSort, Dies At 92

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Tony Hoare, the Turing Award-winning pioneer who created the Quicksort algorithm, developed Hoare logic, and advanced theories of concurrency and structured programming, has died at age 92.

News of his passing was shared today in a blog post. The site I Programmer also commemorated Hoare in a post highlighting his contributions to computer science and the lasting impact of his work. Personal accounts have been shared on Hacker News and Reddit.

Many Slashdotters may know Hoare for his aphorism regarding software design: “There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult.”

I remember learning quicksort in college

By rsilvergun • Score: 5, Interesting Thread
And I understood how it worked and why it worked and that it worked but what I didn’t understand is how somebody could think that would work in the first place. The same thing goes for parity archives.

And I’ve heard that if you have a background in mathematics that it all kind of makes sense and follows from that however that just kicks the can down the road to whoever first figured out those mathematical concepts.

Re:I remember learning quicksort in college

By sg_oneill • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

I remember proving to myself that it works as well as he did by sorting a deck of cards using the method. I was shocked at how quickly it worked. I rarely ever have to roll my own sort, the library ones work better than good, but when I do, its always a quicksort, just because its one I know works and works well. Its not the fastest, but it IS fast.

Re:I remember learning quicksort in college

By PPH • Score: 5, Informative Thread

And I’ve heard that if you have a background in mathematics that it all kind of makes sense

Which is a good argument for getting a well rounded education. The software is only tool to implement an algorithm and solve a problem. One has to understand the problem domain to begin with.

This will be LLMs Achilles Heel. It doesn’t really ‘understand’ anything.

Also the guy who created null

By DrXym • Score: 4, Informative Thread
Which he later described as a billion dollar mistake and even then he’s probably underestimating it. Some languages have tried to plug the leak with optional result types but its too late for most of them. Javascript decided null wasn’t terrible enough and decided to add undefined in too.

One of his lessor known contributions

By gtall • Score: 4, Insightful Thread

One lessor known contributions was Hoare Semantics. This allowed one to use modal logic to prove logical statements about sequential computation. The idea uses a necessity operator from modal logic. The trick he supplied was you could “compute” the effect of that operator on statements. Very toy example:

      x = 1
      x = x + 1
      {x = 2}

where {x = 2} is a statement in equational logic. His idea was to drag the statement backwards through the x = x + 1, so you got

      x = 1
      {x = 2}[x replaced with x + 1]
      x = x + 1
      {x = 2}

The [x replaced with x + 1] is a modal logic operator (in suffix position). Then

        {x = 2}[x replaced with x + 1] .... =.... x + 1 = 2

The using arithmetic, subtract 1 from both sides of x + 1 = 2 yielding x = 1 (the .... =.... is equality in the metalanguage and the second = is equality in the equational logic language). Now your x = 1 as program code clearly makes x = 1 as an equational logic statement true.

This simple, it gets more complicated when you include if and while statements, and function calls. There are rules for them (see David Gries, the Science of Programming). This does the job at the syntactic level. There’s another method, which is equivalent, done model theoretically where you abstract the memory into a function mapping variables to values and then interpret the program language in that model theoretic system. I prefer the latter.

Intel Demos Chip To Compute With Encrypted Data

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An anonymous reader quotes a report from IEEE Spectrum:
Worried that your latest ask to a cloud-based AI reveals a bit too much about you? Want to know your genetic risk of disease without revealing it to the services that compute the answer? There is a way to do computing on encrypted data without ever having it decrypted. It’s called fully homomorphic encryption, or FHE. But there’s a rather large catch. It can take thousands — even tens of thousands — of times longer to compute on today’s CPUs and GPUs than simply working with the decrypted data. So universities, startups, and at least one processor giant have been working on specialized chips that could close that gap. Last month at the IEEE International Solid-State Circuits Conference (ISSCC) in San Francisco, Intel demonstrated its answer, Heracles, which sped up FHE computing tasks as much as 5,000-fold compared to a top-of the-line Intel server CPU.

Startups are racing to beat Intel and each other to commercialization. But Sanu Mathew, who leads security circuits research at Intel, believes the CPU giant has a big lead, because its chip can do more computing than any other FHE accelerator yet built. “Heracles is the first hardware that works at scale,” he says. The scale is measurable both physically and in compute performance. While other FHE research chips have been in the range of 10 square millimeters or less, Heracles is about 20 times that size and is built using Intel’s most advanced, 3-nanometer FinFET technology. And it’s flanked inside a liquid-cooled package by two 24-gigabyte high-bandwidth memory chips—a configuration usually seen only in GPUs for training AI.

In terms of scaling compute performance, Heracles showed muscle in live demonstrations at ISSCC. At its heart the demo was a simple private query to a secure server. It simulated a request by a voter to make sure that her ballot had been registered correctly. The state, in this case, has an encrypted database of voters and their votes. To maintain her privacy, the voter would not want to have her ballot information decrypted at any point; so using FHE, she encrypts her ID and vote and sends it to the government database. There, without decrypting it, the system determines if it is a match and returns an encrypted answer, which she then decrypts on her side. On an Intel Xeon server CPU, the process took 15 milliseconds. Heracles did it in 14 microseconds. While that difference isn’t something a single human would notice, verifying 100 million voter ballots adds up to more than 17 days of CPU work versus a mere 23 minutes on Heracles.

Cannot trust

By manu0601 • Score: 3, Interesting Thread
How can the end user trust such a system? Even if we ever find a way to ensure it runs the software it is supposed to run (does it really encrypts your data?), the inner working involves concepts that even an IT engineer do not master.

Re:Cannot trust

By fuzzyf • Score: 4, Informative Thread
Compute on encrypted data is more of a theoretical exercise (I know, I know, I mean “not particularly useful”) than a practical one. The limitations are so many that it can hardly be called processing. You can’t make decisions on data that is encrypted, because then you could figure out what the data is (think 20 questions). You can only do some limited math on specific scenarios.

It’s interesting, but it can’t really process your health data or much of any real world data imho.

Re:Cannot trust

By abulafia • Score: 5, Informative Thread
Fully homomorphic encryption is mostly theoretical, but that’s because it is incredibly slow and uses huge amounts of memory, not because you can’t write conditionals.

You can compute anything using FHE that you can with any other turing machine. As long as you can wait long enough.

If Intel can provide 1000x+ speedups, some of this might become usable in limited ways. Because right now it costs multiple seconds to do a single FHE multiply, and it needs something like 20000x the memory space of unencrypted computation.

Re:Cannot trust

By serviscope_minor • Score: 4 Thread

You don’t need to trust the system, that’s the beauty of FHE.

You encrypt the data and send it to the FHE chip presumably in the cloud along with your code. It crunches the code and the output is still encrypted because it doesn’t have the keys. You get it back and decrypt it.

Here’s a better idea

By MpVpRb • Score: 4, Informative Thread

Don’t use the cloud
The cloud is a trap
Run away

Amazon Wins Court Order To Block Perplexity’s AI Shopping Bots

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Last November, Amazon sued Perplexity demanding that the AI search startup stop allowing its AI browser agent, Comet, to make purchases for users online. Today, a judge ruled in favor of the tech giant, granting it a temporary court injunction blocking the scraping of Amazon’s website. According to court filings, the judge found strong evidence the tool accessed the retailer’s systems “without authorization.” CNBC reports:
In a ruling dated Monday, U.S. District Judge Maxine Chesney wrote that Amazon has provided “strong evidence” that Perplexity’s Comet browser accessed its website at the user’s direction, but “without authorization” from the e-commerce giant. Chesney said Amazon submitted “essentially undisputed evidence” that it spent more than $5,000 to respond to the issue, including “numerous hours” where its employees worked to develop tools to block Comet from accessing its private customer tools and to prevent the tool from “future unauthorized access.” “Given such evidence, the Court finds Amazon has shown a likelihood of success on the merits of its claim,” Chesney wrote.

Chesney’s ruling includes a weeklong stay to allow Perplexity to appeal the order. Amazon wrote in its original complaint that Perplexity’s agents posed security risks to customer data because they “can act within protected computer systems, including private customer accounts requiring a password.” The company also said Perplexity’s agents created challenges for the company’s advertising business, because when AI systems generate ad traffic, the impressions have to be detected and filtered out before advertisers can be billed. “This requires modifications to Amazon’s advertising systems, including developing new detection mechanisms to identify and exclude automated traffic,” Amazon wrote in its complaint. “These system adaptations are necessary to maintain contractual obligations with advertisers who pay only for legitimate human impressions.”

Reasons

By NotEmmanuelGoldstein • Score: 3 Thread
Translation: AI shoppers makes calculating our advertising expense, difficult. Also, the human owner can cancel the order because the AI did the wrong thing.

Who gives a f**k if Amazon “authorized” it?

By dgatwood • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

An action performed on behalf of the user is per se authorized by the retailer, because the retailer is selling to the user, and authorizes the user to retrieve content from their site as part of buying things from them. It should make no difference whether that action is performed by a bot, the Amazon app, or a web browser on behalf of the user. The user intent is the same, the user is still driving the action, and the end result is the same. The only difference is how much time the user wastes in the process.

What Amazon is really saying is that by giving users control, their dogs**t search system won’t be able to shove overpriced, low-quality trash at users anymore, and people won’t occasionally be tricked into buying trash because they can’t find what they’re actually looking for.

Wah. Don’t care. This is a great opportunity for the doomhammer of antitrust to come crashing down on Amazon’s bulls**t.

That said, the right response is for Perplexity to support every vendor except Amazon. Make it more convenient for people to search for things and find things from everybody else but them. Then advertise their service with ads where people talk about how much money they saved by not buying things from Amazon. Sit back and watch as users write off Amazon as too greedy for their own good.

Re:Hollow Victory??

By dgatwood • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Bots shopping is clearly the future

Clearly the future sucks.

If you’ve never spent an hour manually clicking through twenty or thirty pages of Amazon search results while trying to find something on Amazon because you have specific requirements that their search engine completely ignores and you have timing constraints on when you have to have it, then maybe you’re not the target market for bot shopping.

If you have done that, you understand why people want bots. Amazon has perverse incentives to promote products that pay them more money, even if those products don’t meet your needs, because they know that unless it annoys you enough to shop somewhere else, you’ll just skip through those.

But the bots always ignore those ads. They search for what you are looking for. They eliminate the annoyance, and in so doing, eliminate Amazon’s opportunity to trick you into buying something that’s not quite what you’re looking for, but that gives them a bigger profit. Bots are to online shopping as personal shoppers are to grocery shopping. Those fancy end caps are no match for someone with a specific list of things to buy for someone else.

Amazon hates this. But that doesn’t mean they should have any legal right to stop it in any sane universe.

Buried the lead?

By cmad_x • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Last paragraph in the article:

Amazon has broadly locked down its shopping sites from AI agents, blocking dozens of agents, including OpenAI’s ChatGPT, while investing in its homegrown tools like Rufus, a shopping assistant featured on its website and app.

Way to bury the lead. Company with a history of anti-competitive practices sues competitor. News at 11.

PS. For what it’s worth, Amazon’s point that Perplexity inadvertently messes up Amazon’s contracts with advertisers "who pay only for legitimate human impressions" does seem interesting. I guess they’re inadvertently over-billing their advertisers. I’ll be curious to see how this develops.

Silicon Valley Is Buzzing About This New Idea: AI Compute As Compensation

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sziring shares a report from Business Insider:
Silicon Valley has long competed for talent with ever-richer pay packages built around salary, bonus, and equity. Now, a fourth line item is creeping into the mix: AI inference. As generative AI tools become embedded in software development, the cost of running the underlying models — known as inference — is emerging as a productivity driver and a budget line that finance chiefs can’t ignore.

Software engineers and AI researchers inside tech companies have already been jousting for access to GPUs, with this AI compute capacity being carefully parceled out based on which projects are most important. Now, some tech job candidates have begun asking about what AI compute budget they will have access to if they decide to join.

“I am increasingly asked during candidate interviews how much dedicated inference compute they will have to build with Codex,” Thibault Sottiaux, engineering lead at OpenAI’s Codex, the startup’s AI coding service, wrote on X recently. He added that usage per user is growing much faster than overall user growth, a sign that AI compute is becoming even scarcer and more valuable. That scarcity is reshaping how engineers think about their work and pay.
“The inference compute available to you is increasingly going to drive overall software productivity,” said OpenAI President Greg Brockman.
The report cites a recent compensation submission from a software engineer that listed “Copilot subscription” as part of the pay and benefits. “OpenAI and Anthropic should create recruitment sites where their clients can advertise roles, listing the token budget for the job alongside the salary range,” said Peter Gostev, AI capability lead at Arena, a startup that measures the performance of models.

Tomasz Tunguz of Theory Ventures predicts AI inference will be the fourth component of engineering compensation, alongside salary, bonus, and equity. “Will you be paid in tokens? In 2026, you likely will start to be,” Tunguz said.

Re:Not compensation

By gweihir • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

Yep. Essentially a scam. Tools for the job are to be provided by the employer, no matter how expensive. And they can get very expensive.

I guess they can get a few true AI believers cheaper that way. But do you really want to hire such people?

Re:Not compensation

By gweihir • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Indeed. Same as putting mandatory company apps on your phone. The last time somebody tried that, I told them they were free to give me a company phone, but they would not be getting inside my personal security border. Turns out they could live without me having their apps.

you get 16 tons

By ruddk • Score: 5, Funny Thread

of Co2

Ah! I missed that at first…

By jenningsthecat • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

This is from TFA, and should have been in TFS:

As a coder in the AI era, if you don’t have access to massive compute, you might end up producing far less software than your colleagues, threatening your career prospects.

When I read that, I couldn’t help thinking that software development will move farther and faster toward every project being its own gig. Any company benefits beyond those making an employee more effective will be sacrificed by said employee in the pursuit of more dollars and a better resume to help land more - and more lucrative - gigs in the future.

I didn’t use the word ‘gig’ carelessly. I predict that if what TFA is talking about ever gains real traction, it will turn the whole industry into the high end of the gig economy. A much larger portion of corporate programming departments will consist of temps working for large paycheques and minimal benefits.

Coincidentally - or maybe not - this dovetails nicely with the advent of “vibe coding”. Everything written will be the programming equivalent of dollar store goods: it will be cheap, it will work (perhaps only for some values of “work”), and nobody will miss it when it falls apart because it was meant to fill a short-term need and by then it will be “on to the next”.

Everybody expects dollar store goods to work, but nobody expects quality or durability from them. This may be the advent of dollar store programming as an everyday industry-wide practice.

Re:Life balance??

By caseih • Score: 5, Informative Thread

Add this rule to ublock origin:

||fsdn.com/con/*/floating-unit.js

Not sure if that works on uBlock Lite or not… Chrome really cripples what you can do.

AT&T Outlines $250 Billion US Investment Plan To Boost Infrastructure In AI Age

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AT&T plans to invest more than $250 billion over the next five years to expand U.S. telecom infrastructure for the AI age. The company says it will also hire thousands of technicians while partnering with AST SpaceMobile to extend coverage to remote areas. Reuters reports:
Rapid adoption of artificial intelligence, cloud computing and connected devices has prompted telecom operators to invest heavily in fiber and 5G networks as they also seek to fend off intensifying competition from cable broadband providers. AT&T, which has about 110,000 employees in the U.S., said the new hires will help build and maintain its infrastructure. The outlay includes capital expenditure and other spending, the company said.

The spending will focus on expanding its fiber and wireless networks, including accelerating deployment of fiber broadband, 5G home internet and satellite connectivity to extend coverage across urban, suburban and rural areas. […] AT&T is also working with satellite partner AST SpaceMobile to expand connectivity to remote regions where traditional network infrastructure is difficult to deploy. The company said it would continue spending on the FirstNet network built for first responders and bolster investment in network security and artificial intelligence-driven threat detection.

AT&T?

By Tailhook • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Well, now you know all this is going to end badly.

AT&T is a $125b/y legacy outfit. They’re going to leverage 2x their annual revenue in 5 years on spec…

Yeah. Good luck with that.

Hey, AT&T

By RitchCraft • Score: 4, Interesting Thread

Hey, AT&T, what happened to all that tax payer money over the years you were given that you promised to use for infrastructure upgrade? #FUCKATT

Ig Nobels Ceremony Moves To Europe Indefinitely, Citing US Safety Concerns

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Since 1999, Slashdot has been covering the annual Ig Nobel prize ceremonies — which honor real scientific research into strange or surprising subjects. “After 35 years in Boston, the annual prize ceremony will take place in Zurich, Switzerland, this year and will continue to be held in a European city for the foreseeable future,” reports Ars Technica. “The reason: concerns about the safety of international travelers, who are increasingly reluctant to travel to the U.S. to participate.”

“During the past year, it has become unsafe for our guests to visit the country,” Marc Abrahams, master of ceremonies and editor of The Annals of Improbable Research magazine, told The Associated Press. “We cannot in good conscience ask the new winners, or the international journalists who cover the event, to travel to the U.S. this year.” It comes on the heels of our recent story that many international game developers are opting to skip this year’s weeklong Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, citing similar concerns. Ars Technica reports:
Established in 1991, the Ig Nobels are a good-natured parody of the Nobel Prizes; they honor “achievements that first make people laugh and then make them think.” As the motto implies, the research being honored might seem ridiculous at first glance, but that doesn’t mean it’s devoid of scientific merit. The unapologetically campy awards ceremony features miniature operas, scientific demos, and the 24/7 lectures, in which experts must explain their work twice: once in 24 seconds and again in just seven words.

Traditionally, the awards ceremony and related Ig Nobel events have taken place in Boston at Harvard University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Boston University. However, four of last year’s 10 winners opted to skip the ceremony rather than travel to the U.S., and the situation has not improved. […] [T]his year, the Ig Nobel organizers are joining forces with the ETH Domain and the University of Zurich for hosting duties. “Switzerland has nurtured many unexpected good things — Albert Einstein’s physics, the world economy, and the cuckoo clock leap to mind — and is again helping the world appreciate improbable people and ideas,” Abraham said.

The Ig Nobels will not be returning to the U.S. any time soon. Instead, the plan is for Zurich to host every second year; every odd-numbered year, the ceremony will be hosted by a different European city. Abraham likened the arrangement to the Eurovision Song Contest.

Re: Seriously …?

By newcastlejon • Score: 5, Informative Thread

It’s nowhere near 12,000.
Here’s a video that explains the figures, not that I expect you to watch it, much less admit just how wrong you are.

Re:Seriously …?

By devnulljapan • Score: 5, Funny Thread
Maybe they should award your Dear Leader an IgNobel Peace Prize.

Re:Seriously …?

By test321 • Score: 5, Interesting Thread

The problem is the “mostly”. Being denied a visa in advance is the best case scenario. You could be refused entry after the plan lands. There’s an in-flight questionnaire, and (apparently) in-person phone search is a possibility.

* Would I be refused entry because of a moderately unfavourable opinion on Facebook they’ll only find while searching my phone? I don’t write anything extreme, but who knows what’s a problem and what’s not?
* If I don’t have a Facebook account, should I right now open one just for the purpose of having a clean profile that says nothing wrong and that will be approved? (How many people will go though this stinky hypocrisy?)
* Will I be refused entry for saying “I don’t have social profiles”? (Which makes me look like I have something to hide.)
* Is it better to disclose a slashdot account than saying “no social profiles”? Would *this->message(), be sufficient to be refused entry?

I can’t be sure, nobody really knows, and I obviously can’t ask an US embassy for advice.

Travelling takes time and money. There is better use for both than taking a very small (albeit not zero) risk of spending a night in jail until next flight, and be separated from family in the process. We now have Zoom, and there are other places where people will feel genuinely welcomed.

For journalists the risk is higher, because they express opinions daily, and because the current administration hasn’t been favourable to journalists in general.

Re:Seriously …?

By jenningsthecat • Score: 5, Insightful Thread

Read some news that isn’t based in the US. Even Canadians are worried.

We’re more than just worried - we’re also heartily pissed off. Have you seen the figures on border crossings? US destinations that have been used to lots of Canadian business are suffering badly, with some long-time formerly stable businesses going out of business because they can no longer make a go of it. Not to mention boycotts of US goods and the severe pain being suffered by parts of the US liquor industry.

Here in Canada, even before it became seriously dangerous for us to go the US, we were boycotting and staying away simply because of the 51st state bullshit. ICE becoming full-on Fascist toadies just pissed us off even more, not to mention warning us to stay the hell away for safety’s sake. And that was before the illegal, slapdash, bullshit war on Iran.

American corporate news is really gaslighting American citizens, with even the nominally left-leaning major news outlets soft-peddling just how bad the USA’s reputation has become with people in other countries.

Re:Seriously …?

By F.Ultra • Score: 5, Informative Thread
tell that to the actual European tourists that where detained for no reason.